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Prophecy End Times Message Raises Questions

Prophecy End Times

Prophecy End Times

Prophecy End Times

There is no question that to speak about fulfilled prophecy end times messages, doubt will be raised by the futurist camps. That doubt is often expressed in objections based on alleged contradictions.

It is often argued that if God has fulfilled all Bible prophecy, it destroys our hope and we have nothing more for which to live. So, why are we here?

While these questions are to be expected from futurists, they do not indicate that one has reflected much on their implications. The question assumes that the only way man can have an enjoyable life on earth is to have a future unfulfilled hope until some alleged end of time.

We believe this is very shallow thinking for several reasons.

First, it is a contradiction and direct violation of scripture to reason that man’s life is without meaning if he has no “eschatological” hope. By eschatological hope, we mean one that fulfills end time prophecy.

In other words, if all things are fulfilled, hope is destroyed and man must be a miserable little creature on earth. To see how shallow this type of reasoning is, let’s venture back to the garden for a moment.

Adam Lived In A World Void of Prophecy End Times Messages

When God made Adam and placed him in the garden, before Adam sinned, there was no eschatology, i.e. no end times event for which Adam expected to be taken off the earth.

He only expected to die and live the rest of this life with God. He had no hope in a future coming of Christ. He had no expectation of a millennium true or false. He had no expectation of a resurrection from bodily death.

He only knew that he would die and live forever with God. That was enough hope for him and it remained so until he sinned. It was only after sin entered the world that God implemented a prophetic paradigm of eschatology. That paradigm focused on the death and parousia (coming of Christ).

In other words, when those events were fulfilled, the world would be once again void of the power of sin(corporately speaking) which entered the garden through Adam’s rebellion. Believers are now free from sin and condemnation (John 3:18, 5:24; Rom. 4:7-8; 8:3).

Thus, no further prophecy end times messages are need for those who are now redeemed in Christ. Like Adam, we can fulfill our mission in this life, physically pass on and live forever with God beyond this realm.

Assumptions in Prophecy End Times Objections

Some have reasoned that we must have future prophecy because when God fulfilled the promise of Canaan to Israel, they yet had future prophecies to be fulfilled. Again, they were yet under the power of sin.

If the argument is valid that we cannot live in a world void of future eschatological prophecies then how can we live in heaven at the end of a so called earthly cataclysm? The reasoning is warped.

Should we expect future eschatological prophecies after death? Why not? Why was Abraham and the list of Old Testament patriarchs of Hebrews in expectation having died in faith? For what were they hoping for even in death? Was it not that eschatological promises would be fulfilled?

Thus, if all things are not yet fulfilled while we are in this life, how can they be fulfilled once we die? So goes the one, so goes the other. We might be wise to reread Jesus words in John 11:25-26. That should settle any concern and conflicts over our status as believers and prophecy end times objections.

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  1. The Seeker
    3 years ago

    What happens at the end of the millineum? Isn't there some sort of judgement? Has that happened already or is it all symbolic of something else? If so, what? Who are the two witnesses?


    • ATF
      2 years ago

      At the end of the Millennium, death, Hades, the false prophet, the beast and Satan were all cast into the "lake of fire" i.e. destroyed and the new heavens and earth, i.e.t he new Jerusalem and bride of Christ arrived as the eternal city of righteousness in which believers now dwell.


  2. Qadar
    2 years ago

    Hello, Mr. Bell, I'm loving The Last Days DVD Series I order about 2 weeks ago its just one thing,i couldn't see the back ground screen to well. I was hoping if you had copies of the information that was on the screen I would gladly pay you for them if its not a problem. My name is Mr. Vincent Wiggins you can e-mail your response mobeter29@yahoo.com i would appreciate that.
    Thank You, God Bless You and all the hard work you are doing to get this good new out.


    • ATF
      2 years ago

      Vincent, I believe I may have copies of those slides somewhere. If you will write me a brief comment expressing to let me know that you're enjoying the studies, I will forward to you once I dig them out of my files. I would like to use the testimonials to help others who need to see that study as well.


  3. Kevin
    2 years ago

    Hello Mr. Bell,
    I have recently begun reading your articles and find much to think about. Anyone who can inspire people to read and think about the Bible is to be commended.
    You state that before Adam sinned he expected to die, but how could he expect to die if the wages of sin is death, but he had never yet sinned? Adam was a living soul (Genesis 2:7) and the soul that sins, it shall die (Eze 18:20) so Adam would not have expected to die until after he had sinned. Before sinning Adam would have expected to have immortality There is no distinction made between physical death and spiritual death. Please explain your view on the idea of death without sin.


    • ATF
      2 years ago

      That their is a distinction between spiritual death and physical death is obvious from the text in Gen. 2:16-17 and the outcome of what occurred in chapter 3. God told Adam, the "day" you eat you will die. Adam ate. Adam died. Not physically, but he was separated from God, i.e. from the tabernacle or presence of God in Eden. As physical death is the separation of body and spirit, James 2:26, so spiritual death is the separation of man from God. (Isaiah 59:1-2). Note how differently the two are defined. In addition, God does make a distinction between physical and spiritual death. "But she [and he] who lives in pleasure is dead while she lives. Obviously a person physically dead is not physically alive at the same time. Thus, one is spiritually dead while physically alive. "And you [physically alive people in Ephesus] He made alive, who were dead in trespasses and sins" (Ephesians 2:1:5). That's why Christ died to take away the sin, so whether we "wake or sleep" we can live together with him, 1 Thess. 5:10. Now, to Adam and the garden. The very laws and commands God put in place in the creation indicates the presence of physical death as both natural and essential to life. Without death in the natural realm, life could not exist. Consider. Let every seed bring forth after its kind, Gen. 1:11-12. How does a seed germinate? Does it not do so through the process of death? Did not Paul write, Foolish one, , what you sow is not made alive unless it dies. Christ also said, "Most assuredly, I say to you, unless a grain of wheat falls into the ground and dies, it remains alone; but if it dies, it produces much grain" (John 12:24). Therefore, God's law for the natural creation, in the botanical world, "let every seed bring forth (reproduce) after it's kind, could only be possible through the process of death. Wasn't this law given even before man was created? Therefore, death was in the botanical world of God's creation even before man was. Secondly, what about the animals, birds, aquatic creatures and creeping things? Did not God create them before man and command them to "be fruitful and multiply, (Gen. 1:22). Now, please consider, how was God going to feed all the fish and aquatic animals in the sea? Would they not have to eat other fish, and creatures in the sea to survive. Do not seals eat fish? Do not fish eat creeping things and their eggs? Do not sea gulls eat fish? How long is the life span of a fly? What if flies could not die? What if insects had life spans of hundreds or thousands of years. How long would it take to become a swarm of insects that could cover the face of the entire earth if there were no death? How many insects, fish, or birds do you know that have sinned? How would God feed them, if they did not feed on each other and the grass to survive? Isn't that why God gave the law of reproduction to ensure that creation survived through the process of eating/reproduction etc? What does lions, crocodiles, bears, tigers and other carnivores and reptiles eat. Don't they kill for food? How was this possible if animals and other creatures could not die? Why was it necessary for man to "be fruitful and multiply? Because man also had to eat, (and thereby something had to die in that process, whether fruit or meat [which came later] after the flood, but the point is, a death process must occur. Is it not biologically true that the cells within the human body die and reproduce entirely within about 7 years? Isn't therefore human life itself a process of dying and reproducing new cells. What is our population today, about 7 billion and governments are concerned about too many people on earth. China controls it's population by allowing only 2 or 3 kids per family. What is there were no physical death. How could man have survived on an earth that was designed to be inhabited all the way from creation without a single death? Yes, death was both necessary, and natural in the physical realm, else God's creation would be chaos. Physical death has never been the problem. Physical death cannot separate us from God, Romans 8:35. Only sin-death does that. Physical death is God's means of allowing us to transition from this world to the next where we live forever with him without the toils and burns of this life. Man that is born of woman is of few days and full of trouble, John 14:1. Yet, God has made so much in life beautiful that we can enjoy life here, especially with the blessings in Christ's redemption. That's what Adam's choice to eat denied him, the promise of living with God forever after his earthly life. Thus, he had to die and go to Hades (separation in death), a separation which has now been removed in Christ, (1 Cor. 15:55-57; Revelation 1:18). Hades can no longer prevail against the church, (Matthew 16:18), thanks to Jesus and his glorious redemption. That's why God writes in Revelation 14:13, "Blessed are the dead who die in the Lord from now on. Yes, that they may rest from their labors, and their works follow them. Finally, look carefully in Genesis 2:7, and you will see a couple of things indicative of God forming Adam. First, he made him from the dust, then he breathed into him the breath of life. Adam was not living before God breathed life into his nostrils. Nor was he created in the garden where he had access to the tree of life where he could live forever spiritually. He had to willingly choose that, which he did not as we know. The same is true for us today. We must wiling choose the "tree of life" i.e. Christ in order for us to live spiritually forever and not suffer sin-death and its eternal consequences. Yes, we will die physically, but our relationship to God is not affected. Hope this helps.


    • ATF
      8 months ago

      If there is no distinction between physical death and "spiritual" or "sin death" how is it possible that one can be "dead" while they live? (1 Tim. 5:6). How is it possible to be "dead in trespasses and sins" (Eph. 2:1-2) while people yet walked according to the prince of evil? How was Adam yet alive after he ate since God promised he would die the day he ate? Did God lie? Since no one living today, can live above sin, why do we all die, and since all believers are redeemed from sin, why do we yet die physically?

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